WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION FOR GETTING O.R.O.P.?

WHAT IS YOUR CONTRIBUTION FOR GETTING O.R.O.P.? HAVE YOU JOINED IN ANY DHARNA ANY WHERE ? WITHOUT SHOWING OUR PAIN WE WILL NOT GET ANY GAIN. JOIN I.E.S.M. AND FIGHT FOR O.R.O.P. THINK IT OVER AND JOIN IMMEDIATELY FOR O.R.O.P.

UNITY IS OUR STRENGTH

DEAR VETERANS
OUR UNITY IS VERY IMPORTANT
PLEASE HELP THE POOR JAWANS

THEY ARE MORE IN NUMBER

BRING THEM UNDER YOUR COMMAND
BY LOVE & COMPASSION
THEN YOU SEE HOW
THINGS MOVE WITH THE GOVT


PLEASE THINK IT OVER

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KNOW THE RATES OF DISABILITY PENSIONS

W.E.F.01.01.2006

(FOR PRE 01.01.06)(100%)
READ CDA CIRCULAR 456
JCOs (FOR 100%)
READ CIRCULAR 456
OTHER RANKS (FOR 100%)
READ CIRCULAR 456

WAR INJURY PENSION
FOR ALL RANKS (100%)
READ CDA CIRCULAR 456

DISABILITY PENSION &
WAR INJURY PENSION
TO BE PAID WITH D.A.

CONSTANT ATTENDANCE ALLOWANCE
FOR ALL RANKS (FOR 100%)
Rs.3750/-W.E.F. 01.01.2011

MINIMUM SPECIAL FAMILY PENSION
Rs.7000/- W.E.F.01.01.2006

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IT IS BETTER TO KNOW

YOUR PENSION ENTITLEMENTS THAN

YOUR LIQUOR QUOTA

HELP ALL TO GET
CORRECT PENSION FROM BANKS

REMEMBER, THAT OUR DEMAND OF

ONE RANK ONE PENSION

STILL NOT ACCEPTED BY GOVT.

20,000 MEDALS SURRENDERED

OUR FIGHT CONTINUES

JOIN THE MISSION TO WIN

THERE IS NO GAIN WITHOUT PAIN

LET US FIGHT FOR JUSTICE
OROP MEANS
EQUAL PENSION
FOR EQUAL RANK
GROUP,AND SERVICE
IRRESPECTIVE OF DATE
OF RETIREMENT
WHETHER POST 01.01.2006
OR PRE 01.01.2006

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RECENT JUDGEMENT - AFT KOCHI

WIDOW OF A RE-EMPLOYED EXSM

ENTITLED FOR DUAL FAMILY PENSION


"நல்ல நிர்வாகத்தால் வழங்கப்படும்

நீதி தான் உயர்ந்தது.

நீதி மன்றங்களினால் பெறப்படும் நீதிகள்

நிர்வாகத்துக்கு பெரும் அவமானம்

என்பதை நிர்வாகம்

(Ministry of Defence)

நன்கு உணர வேண்டும்."

தகுதியுள்ள விதவைகளுக்கு உடனே

இரண்டு குடும்ப பென்ஷன் வழங்க வேண்டும்

முன்னாள் படை வீரர் குடும்பங்களின்

நலன் காப்பது ராணுவ அமைச்சகத்தின்

தலையாய கடமையாகும்

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Wednesday, January 21, 2015

SELF ATTESTATION





NEED FOR SELF ATTESTATION OF DOCUMENTS – IMPLEMENTATION IN DEPARTMENT OF EX-SERVICEMEN WELFARE

It will be a great relief to veterans if the Self attestation policy recommended by Department of Administrative reforms vide their OM dated 10 May 2013 is implemented in the Department of Ex-servicemen Welfare.

Of late the Record Offices are insisting Affidavits/Attestation for each and every thing sometimes  from a First Class Magistrate and sometimes from a First Class Judicial Magistrate.  The procedure for obtaining affidavit from 1st Class Judicial Magistrate is different from a 1st Class Magistrate.  A 1st Class Judicial Magistrate cannot be approached without the help of an advocate.  Similarly the 1st Class Magistrate of a District Revenue Officer or Revenue Divisional Officer cannot be approached directly for anything.  The revenue department’s sub-ordinate officials such as VAO and Tahsildar has to approve before taking any issue to the Revenue Divisional Officer. 

Both these procedures are time consuming and expensive.  There is no fixed fee prescribed for this purpose by the government.  Therefore the veterans are put into great hardship for getting Affidavits.  While this is the ground situation, the Record Offices simply send a letter to obtain affidavit from 1st Class Magistrates for each and every thing.  For example a small spelling mistake made mostly by some other record office staff in the name of an individual, say Sepoy.Natarajan as  per his school certificate is written by record office staff as Natrajan omitting ‘a’ after ‘t’.  For this simple alphaphetical mistake made due to the pronunciation in a different way by different people of this country, now the individual has to get an affidavit from a First class Magistrate.  Likewise there are so many instances that the veterans are put into great hardship.

For certain documentary evidences, the date of birth given in a school certificate is accepted in many offices  Whereas our record offices are insisting original birth certificate in addition to the school certificate.  (As per Army Instructions 51/80 AHQ letter No.A/00659/org-8 (I&R) (A) dt.10/10/1991 school certificates can be accepted for all purposes.  Since delayed registration of birth is to be done only through legal procedure (Court) it takes minimum 3 to 4 months and a considerable advocate fee.  In this situation it is requested that the school certificate may be accepted for date of birth for all purposes.

Similarly, in case of marriage certificate, the record offices are insisting affidavit from magistrate even after producing the original marriage certificate issue by the registrar of marriages of the respective state government.
Of late the need for the veterans to approach their record offices increases day by day due to various reasons.

1.      After the introduction of ECHS, the necessity for the publication of Part II order for the child birth of post retirement cases increases.
2.      The recent welfare measures announced by the govt. like pension for unmarried daughters, widowed daughters and physically and mentally challenged children of veterans had made the veterans to run for birth certificates, death certificates after a long delay.  According to Registration of Births and Death Act 1969, a birth or death if not registered within one year from the date of occurrence, the  birth or death certificate can be obtained only through courts which is a lengthy, time consuming and expensive procedure.  The newly announced self attestation procedure if implemented in our services, it will be a great relief to the veterans.
3.      A 50 years old widowed daughter of an ex-serviceman, suppose if she wants to apply for her father’s defence family pension, then kindly read below what are the certificates she has to produce.
i)                    The death and legal heir ship certificate of her father.
ii)                  The death and legal heir ship certificate of her mother.
iii)                The death and legal heir ship of her husband.
iv)                The marriage certificate issued by registrar of marriages in original.
v)                  The birth certificate of the widowed daughter of the veteran.
vi)                Non re-marriage certificate from the revenue authorities.
vii)              Income certificate from revenue authorities.

Thank God, nowadays, the death certificates are issued without much difficulty.  In case of issue of legal heir ship certificate, as there is no clear transparent procedure laid down by most of the state government, the revenue authorities mostly  the lower level functionaries of the District collector like the Tahsildhar, Revenue Inspector and VAOs take advantage of the situation and harass the public in innumerable ways.  As there is no fixed fee for issue of a Legal heir ship certificate and also there is no clear mandate for the Revenue authorities to issue legal heir ship certificates,  the veterans are suffering a lot.

As the revenue authorities always busy with the executive powers of Law and Order, communal peace and various other miscellaneous works entrusted by the district collector from time to time, the job of verification  and issue of legal heir ship certificate to any individual becomes secondary.  If we raise an issue regarding non issue or delay,  then the alternative will be to go to court to get a Succession certificate.  This is the practical difficulty in obtaining legal heir ship certificate.  There is no relief to the public on this issue in the near future as there is no indication of any new legislation in this regard.

Regarding the marriage certificate for a 50 years old widow, the rules does not allow to issue marriage certificate after the death of the husband.  Therefore the widow has to approach the court or RDO to get an affidavit .  It is not an easy job for a helpless orphaned widow to get all these certificates.

Similarly, if the birth of the widow was not registered and Part II order is not obtained by her deceased father, again she has to approach court.  It looks simple that widowed daughter will be given pension of her father.  But practically very few only able to get the pension because of the above hurdles.  Many poor families of the veterans do not come forward  even to apply.

Moreover, recently, the record offices have introduced another clause that all such applications from unmarried daughters and widowed daughters for pension must be investigated by the Zilla Sainik board and genuiness report must be obtained before forwarding the application to PCDA for issue of PPO. The Zilla sainik offices unduly delay such applications for sending the verification report.  In the case of applications from unmarried daughters of veterans, the Zilla sainik board officials do not show any sympathy and humanitarian view, they always look at the applicants with a suspicious eye.  Therefore there is lot of delay in forwarding the investigation report to the record office.

The functioning of the state administered Zilla sainik Board is far below the expectations of the veterans in almost all states.

There is an urgent need to change the functioning of the Ex-servicemen Welfare departments.  They are not sensitive to the need of the veterans.  Kendriya sainik board is another big blank.

For the present, if the service head quarters  implement the self attestation procedure immediately and instruct suitable guidelines to all record offices and Zilla sainik boards, it will be a great relief to many more veterans.
As an Ex-serviemen and Social Welfare Trust, we find it very difficult to help poor veterans and their families because of the above mentioned difficulties.  We therefore request the Veteran Cell to take up the matter with appropriate authorities for an early implementation of the self attestation policy for the veterans matters.

Punjab and Kerala State governments have already implemented.  Tamil Nadu government is silent about this.  The Central Government should make it mandatory for the states to implement such reforms for the benefit of its citizens.

Monday, January 19, 2015

LATEST ON O.R.O.P

 

 LATEST ON O.R.O.P AS PUBLISHED IN AERIAL VIEW

Sunday, 18 January 2015

Where is the OROP heading

It is with considerable interest that I read the musings/op ed of Brig V Mahalingam (retd), a noted TV debater/expert and of Col Rajvardhan Singh Rathore (retd), MP and now Hon'ble MoS respectively on the OROP. I do not wish to comment nor am I qualified or knowledgeable enough to do so.

But their learned comments sparked off some questions.

1. What happens in the OROP of the pre-AVSC Majors and Lt Cols with 26 years of service? Would they want the pension of Lt Cols and Cols? 

Would they be satisfied if a Major (with 26 years service) was given OROP based on an extended table i.e. 13 years table of a Lt Col with an average of Grade Pay of Major and Lt Col (i.e Rs 8000-6600= 1400 divided by 2 = Rs 700) extended to 26 years of service as on 1.4.2014?  

Similarly, would the Lt Col with 26 years service be satisfied with an OROP based on an extended table i.e.  20 years of Col with an average of Grade Pay of Lt Col and Col (i.e. Rs 8700-8000= Rs 700 divided by 2 = Rs 350 extended to 26 years of service as on 1.4.2014?

2. Has the equalisation of 3% been misunderstood to mean increment of 3% annually? Suppose two Lt Cols A born on 01 Jul and the second B on 02 Jul. A would retire on 30 Jun and B on 31 Jul. A would not get the increment that B gets. Now what happens if both had the same number of years of service on retirement? Shouldn't their pensions be equalised? Wouldn't it be acceptable as the financial effect may be 1 to 2 % of the total?

3. How would the financial outgo be impacted if Army which has a larger number of Y Group puts in a case for X Group pension for all? Will there be lesser effect in the Navy and Air Force, which has a larger number in X Group? 

4. If service in the rank is to be the criteria for OROP, then wouldn't we need different tables for each Service, each Arm/Service/Branch/Trade? As service records are destroyed after a certain number of years, who and how would this data be provided? Because not every one is provided with or keeps copies of Casualty Reports (and equivalents in the Navy and Air Force)! And how will the clerk in the Banks calculate pension at every subsequent change for at the moment he has tables (in Circular 500 and 501) and where the X axis (rank) intersects with the Y axis (years of service) is where he/she obtains the pension due amount!!!

5. A figure of Rs 14000 crores would probably arise if CGDA (or PCDA (P)) decided that maximum years of service in the X axis and Rank in Y axis in Circulars 500 and 501 multiplied by the number of Lt Cols  Rs 26265), Cols (Rs 27795) and Havildars (Rs 9145) and equivalents (the largest strength)with 28years of service or more. Wouldn't it be prudent to take some real data say over the past 3-5 years to determine the actual years of service, which would definitely be less than the highest amount taken for calculations.

6. There are an increasing number of cases where Brigs, Cols, even some Lt Cols & equivalents, drawing Pay in the pay band + Grade Pay + MSP higher than Vice Chiefs and Army Cdrs and equivalents. Is there a case of OROP for the Maj Gens, Lt Gens and Apex scale?        

 7. Do the following tables (in circulation elsewhere) meet the points above?

QS
LT
CAPT
MAJ
LT COL
COL
BRIG
MAJ GEN
LT GEN
LT GEN (HAG+)
VCOAS
COAS
10
16715
17560
22546
23246
23596
23696
11
17130
18000
23133
23833
24183
24283
12
17555
18450
23737
24437
24787
24887
13
17995
18915
24359
25700
26050
26150
14
18445
19395
25000
26385
26735
26835
15
18910
19890
25660
27815
27815
27915
16
19390
20400
27115
27815
28920
29020
17
19885
20925
27860
28560
28560
28660
18
20395
21465
29400
30100
30495
30595
19
20920
22020
30095
30795
31980
32080
20
21460
22595
31790
32490
32850
32950
21
22015
23185
31790
32490
33770
33870
22
22590
23795
32515
33215
34520
34620
23
23180
24420
32515
33215
34535
34785
24
23790
25065
32525
33225
34535
35555
25
24415
25600
32525
33225
34560
35605
26
25060
25600
32525
33225
35275
36420
27
25060
25600
33295
33995
36080
37255
28
25060
25600
33295
33995
36095
37255
29
25060
25600
33295
33995
36930
37275
30
25060
25600
33295
34765
36940
37280
31
X
X
X
34765
36950
37975
32
X
X
X
34765
36975
39020
33
X
X
X
X
38865
39025
34
X
X
X
X
38865
39025
35
X
X
X
X
38865
39035
36
X
X
X
X
X
39035
37
X
X
X
X
X
39035
38
X
X
X
X
X
39035
39
X
X
X
X
X
X
41500
42500
43000
44000
48000
Ord Fam Pension
15036
15360
19977
20859
23319
23421
24900
25500
25800
26400
28800
Disability element for 100% disability
15036
15380
19977
20859
23319
23421
24900
25500
25800
26400
28800
Note:
1.                Table has been made using real date available and best across three Services.
2.                For Majors, pension has been fixed based on the pension  of higher rank
3.         For Lts and Capts, pension is based on VI CPC pay fixation.
4.         MSP has been granted notionally to Major Generals and above to grant higher pension vis-à-vis Brigadiers.
5.         The Enhanced Ordinary Family Pension will be equivalent of the re-fixed retiring pension, Special Family Pension will be 120% of the re-fixed retiring pension and Liberalised Family Pension will be 200% of re-fixed retiring pension.
6.         For lower disability (less than 100%) the above figures will be reduced as applicable.
Revised Pension with effect from 01 Apr 14: ORs/JCOs/Hony Ranks
QS
Ranks
Sepoy
Naik
Havildar
Nb Sub
Sub
Sub Maj
H Lt
H Capt
15
8365
8760
9390
11635
12355
12800
16
8365
8760
9390
11635
12355
12800
17
8365
8840
9685
11635
12355
12800
18
8810
8845
9685
11635
12355
12800
19
8815
9015
9685
11635
12420
12885
20
9350
9550
9750
11635
12775
12885
21
9410
9610
9810
11635
12935
13705
22
9410
9610
9810
11635
13445
13935
23
X
9730
9930
11635
13450
14165
24
9730
9930
11635
13885
14405
25
X
9930
11635
13885
14405
26
9930
11635
14575
15075
15075
27
X
11735
14575
15075
15075
28
11735
14575
15310
15425
29
11865
15015
15545
15545
30
12030
15015
15790
31
12195
15015
16020
32
12360
15015
16020
33
12685
15015
16020
34
12845
15015
16020
35
12845
15015
16020
36
12845
15015
16020
16160
37
12845
15015
16020
17130
17905
38
12845
15015
16020
17130
17905
39
12845
15015
16020
17130
17905
Ord Family Pension
5646
5838
5958
7707
9009
9612
10278
10743
Disability element for 100% disability
5646
5838
5958
7707
9009
9612
10278
10743
Note: -
1.         Table has been made using real data available and best across three Services.
2.         Stepping up has been done in cases where the pension for greater length of service in a rank is lower than the lesser length of service in the same rank.
3.         Stepping up has also been done in cases where the pension in senior rank is lower than a junior rank for the same length of service.
4.         In cases where real data is not available, the data of next rank for same length of service has been used reducing the pension by half the difference in grade pays.
5.         The Enhanced Ordinary Family Pension will be equivalent of the re-fixed retiring pension, Special Family Pension will be 120% of the re-fixed retiring pension and Liberalised Family Pension will be 200% of re-fixed retiring pension.
6.         For lower disability (less than 100%) the above figures will be reduced as applicable.
 
Credit: www.sharad10525.blogspot.com  The Blog is named: Aerial View
Thanks to Air Marshal S.Y.Savur for his valuable analysis on OROP.